Qantas Food & Wine Tuesday, Dec 11 2007
Here is an interesting little tidbit from the Sunday paper and maybe not such good news for people who travel regularly…and perhaps worse still for the local wine industry.
Perry may be off menu at Qantas
There’s a whole lot of turbulence in the Qantas food & beverage department. Recently Qantas wine buyer Peter Nixon decided to leave the airline, much to the dismay of the wine media. He’s lauded as the man who revamped the Qantas in-flight wine list and completely changed the way the airline bought wine. He decided wine must be bought in much smaller quantities to ensure the list was constantly updated. Qantas made an internal to replace him and the flow on is yet to be seen.
But the even bigger gossip is that Neil Perry is about to lose the catering contract for the flying Kangaroo. Perry has been associated with the airline since 1997 and his arrival prompted an overhaul of in-flight catering (in those days it was considered quite fancy when passengers were served olive oil and sourdough bread). Nowadays some of the well-heeled crowd who frequent first and business class expect more - and are making their voices heard. Qantas executive general manager John Borghetti said the rumours about Perry’s departure were false. “Neil has done an outstanding job for Qantas and we are extremely happy with the contribution he’s made and will continue to make in the future,” Borghetti said.
It makes sense that those who travel in the pointy end of the plane are used to fine wine and fine dining. But with the limited competition for business-and first-class flyers, perhaps Qantas will simply serve them cheese and whine.
Shelly Horton (the diary, The Sun Herald Dec 9th, 2007).
Print this article
eMail this article
29 Responses to “Qantas Food & Wine”
December 11th, 2007 at 1:09 pm
I reckon the food on Qantas is still v. ordinary, but it’s a great loss that Peter Nixon has gone. He was doing a champion job.
Campbell.
December 11th, 2007 at 1:38 pm
Agree Campbell, showed real passion for his craft, it is hard to see what ‘type’ of person they go with for both wine and food.
December 11th, 2007 at 1:54 pm
I have yet to see anything worth drinking in cattle class, irrespective of who has been in charge. Little better than cask quality.
December 11th, 2007 at 2:00 pm
Don’t agree at all. Wirra Scrubby, Rolling Chardonnay, JC Reserve Cab all nice wines.
GW
December 11th, 2007 at 2:34 pm
Internal hiring….ppfffft! Never works, I tell you. Fresh is best.
December 11th, 2007 at 6:09 pm
Sorry GW, I can’t agree on this one. Qantas don’t have it compared to the Asian airlines in food, wine and general service. As a regular QF flyer, the service, in particular, is ordinary. In fact, I had reason to log a complaint recently with the Flying Kangaroo and my return e-mail said I would receive a response in the “next 5 business days”. Well, it’s now 13 business days and I am still waiting. Also, the wines are ordinary. I had a choice of Fifth Leg Chard/Sav Blanc/Chenin Blanc, or Gamekeepers Reserve. Not terrible but very average…..
December 11th, 2007 at 6:18 pm
DB said :
In Business or Economy?
December 11th, 2007 at 6:48 pm
Oh yes. I also think the standard of service in Qantas is generally pretty desperate and the food ordinary. I have no complaints about the wine though. Better than that dodgy generic Bordeaux they give you on BA.
GW
December 11th, 2007 at 7:35 pm
Star said :
Economy. Sometimes only a Monty Python or Fawlty Towers quote suffices as a response;
“Well, might I ask what you expected to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? The hanging gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically…” Basil Fawlty.
Both these wines have recieved broad critical acclaim from the likes of Halliday (including GW on this website at 89 points a piece)with recognition that they are attractive well-made drinking wines that deliver in spades. What would you expect to see in economy and which airlines serve it?
From my own travel experience and as GW points suggests, most airlines in economy either serve undrinkable wines from France including second rate Bordeaux or Languedoc-Roussillon, or more commercial or very poor ‘cleanskin’ offerings from Australia, Chile or South Africa.
December 11th, 2007 at 10:03 pm
I have to agree that Gamekeepers and Fifth Leg in economy is a pretty good deal. There is some nasty stuff doing the rounds on other airlines.
GD
December 12th, 2007 at 1:38 am
I don’t travel much by air, mostly preferring two wheels on the ground and $s in the pocket for wine purchases on terra firma. Gamekeepers and 5th Leg are quite acceptable wines in budget class though I’d probably prefer a Jacobs Creek riesling to the latter.
December 12th, 2007 at 7:45 am
A riesling drinker “we should have you stuffed!” (another Fawlty Towers quote).
If only others were as informed as us - alas the myth perpetuates that it is sweet (in Australia at least) and even when punters try it and it is bone-dry they still don’t change there opinion. That Yalumba Y Riesling 2007 is a BARGAIN.
December 12th, 2007 at 8:49 am
better red than dead said :
ha ha ha, I love it
December 12th, 2007 at 9:06 am
Interesting. Person (English) at Melbourne Cup day said I don’t drink riesling. I said Australian riesling is dry, not sweet. They tried an 07 Petaluma and said ‘yes that is sweet’. I said it is actually bone dry but there you go…
GW
December 12th, 2007 at 9:20 am
okay…..I was too harsh on the standard of Qantas’ wine. I was wrong on that account. But remember, you drink it out of a plastic cup (or the bottle)! And that makes an 89 wine taste like an 82. And yes, the Fifth Leg is better than the Chablis I had on a recent Air France economy flight from Singapore to Paris, or the Bordeaux on the same flight (but at least Air France provided a wine glass). But I definately agree that a Reisling would be a nice change to the Fifth Leg (or similar regular white combo that is served up). There are so many top Aussie Reislings at a good price out there.
GD, loved your commentary on the weekend. Top stuff.
December 12th, 2007 at 9:21 am
I think it will be the appearance and acceptance of non-Riesling sweet wines (and such as Moscato that will help people appreciate that sweet wines can be quality-wines. Ironically with this acceptance will finally come an acceptance of Riesling (even though most is dry!).
December 12th, 2007 at 9:58 am
Serving Moscato might be a better bet than the current dross. Don’t apologise DB - you are right.
December 12th, 2007 at 11:36 am
DB said :
Thanks mate.
Qantas give you a glass in economy, don’t they? Not on domestic, but I can’t remember drinking wine out of plastic on long haul….happy to be corrected though.
GD
December 12th, 2007 at 2:00 pm
GD, you are correct - you get a glass on the international flights with Qantas. Plastic is reserved for domestic flights only. Air France provide a wine glass for France domestic routes in addition to international routes.
December 12th, 2007 at 2:17 pm
ChrisH said :
Chris last time I flew domestic economy they served Primo Estate ‘La Biondina’ Colombard-Sauvignon Blanc 2007 and Langmeil 3 Gardens GSM 2005 - let me know where I can get wine of this quality in a cask and I will be a bladder-pack convert!
What are you expecting DRC, Guigal La Turque, Leeuwin Estate ‘Art Series’ Chardonnay, Chateau Lafite 1956?! Actually I think they serve these on Air Lynx (or in my frequent dreams)
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=8PvIdnaJ_C0
December 17th, 2007 at 6:28 pm
better red than dead said :
Why would you want to drink that?? Possibly the worst vintage of the century for Bordeaux…I would probably go for something from 55 instead.
December 17th, 2007 at 8:32 pm
I can say that at least I haven’t been sick from Qantas food for a while. I remember my first trip to Japan and I was crook as a dog. Their standards have certainly improved. Re the wine, I never take much notice and most of my international flying now is with Malaysian so anything is better than their average Bordeauxs and South African junk in cattle class…
December 18th, 2007 at 10:18 am
The Qantas business wine list on the other hand is a cracker. My other half flies business to the US on occasion and I always recommend she tries the wines, as they routinely have something good on.
December 18th, 2007 at 12:49 pm
I can confirm the wine in Qantas business class is pretty good from memory (Kalimna Shiraz, St Hugo, a Margaret River chardonnay whose name escapes me??)…….just an update……still waiting on a response to my complaint to Qantas. At least they have acknowledged receipt of it!
December 18th, 2007 at 3:09 pm
Inflight wine guide
December 18th, 2007 at 3:09 pm
Hot off the press.
December 18th, 2007 at 6:15 pm
i travel cattle class weekly and urgently await to be served something other than feline urine on either qantas , jetstar or virgin.
new broom , new face , maybe new ideas re wine - hopefully so for qantas and it’s passengers.
quite frankly wine in the sky cannot stoop to lower levels than where it is currently!
December 18th, 2007 at 8:51 pm
I suspect an impostor……
Reveal thyself nave.
December 19th, 2007 at 9:02 am
Don to be honest you are swimming against the tide with that opinion, most significantly against some of Australia’s leading wine commentators and other contributors on Winorama and Winestar.
http://www.winestar.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12883&highlight=nixon
Over the last 3-years I have seen Qantas shift from the usual airline/hotel mini-bar range of Lindemans Bin 65, Wyndham 555, Poets Corner, Jacob’s Creek etc to include Jacobs Creek Reserve, St Halletts, Wirra Wirra, O’Leary Walker, Primo Estate, Nepenthe and Flinders Bay. Wines that I have enjoyed and wines that have also received broad critical acclaim (media ratings and show awards).
I have seen some duds including the Zonte’s Footsteps Cab Malbec (reminded me of Lindemans Bin 50) and the T’Gallant Juliet Pinot Grigio (neutral)however the wines seem to change every couple of months now, so this is a minor quibble. This is a vast improvement on the days when the wines changed bi-annually.
Perhaps you are referring to Qantas-link which appears to remain unchanged. If not, what wine styles would you want to see?