Cabernet at the Crossroads Monday, Feb 18 2008
Tasting Notes and Australia and France and Bordeaux and Margaret River and Yarra Valley and Variety and Red and cabernet et al
I popped down to Coldstream Hills last week to take part in a couple of tastings. The first was a comparative of top end Pinot from Stefano Lubiana, Felton Road and Coldstream Hills and the second being this session - ‘Cabernet at the Crossroads’. Not sure why it was called that, I must not have been paying attention, but I do know that I felt on home ground getting back to that superior and most noble of grapes - Cabernet Sauvignon. This tasting amply illustrates how good the Yarra Valley can be at producing great Cabernet, and indeed I feel it is the regions best red grape, yet it’s such a shame there are not more producers. Coldstream, Oakridge, Mount Mary, Yeringberg, Wantirna Estate, Yarra Yarra would be the main players with some smaller, newer operations such as Hillcrest creating successful wines.
We were only given an hour to taste and cobble together some notes on the wines, so while I am reluctant to assign scores based on a small hasty taste, I will do so because it’s important to establish my perspective on relative quality. The notes are pretty much as typed up on the day and I provide a little of the background discussion and my own thoughts in order to provide a bit of additional insight - which is after all pretty much what these tastings are all about. The photo is of the upstairs tasting room at Coldstream and at the end of the table you can see winemaker Andrew Fleming but not James Halliday (to his right) who is obscured by a radiant god-like glow..
2005 Coldstream Hills Reserve
Juicy cassis, cedar, flicker of mint. Rich and varietal.
Lush cherry/cassis, some chocolate and dried herb/tobacco flavours. Nice tannins – slight greenness but attractive. Smooth and fluid. Very smart wine. 94-95 points
This wine in a bracket of its own and I’d guess it has been and gone now. I never got to see a whole bottle but loved the 2005 varietal Cabernet and this is a big step above.
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2004 Coldstream Hills Reserve
Some capsicum/twiggy, blackcurrant, touch of beefy, cedar oak. Red fruit and black currant, nice and fresh. Some green eucalypt but legitimate. Dry firm tannins – quite grainy and strict. Good finish. Nice line. Quite classic. Should age well. 94 points
2004 Moss Wood Cabernet
Quite high oak – gluey vanilla, mulberry, surprisingly minty. Chocolate. Very tight with strong tannins. Some warmth. Quite butch. Tannic to close and berry fruits. Very young and compressed. Pretty dry. Looks blocky and compressed. May come good.. 88-89 points
2004 Chateau Ducru-Beaucaillou
Beefstock, slighly bretty, earthy and minerally, some floral notes but not so fruity –cherry/raspberry probably. Has a good palate - medium bodied with good line and drive and a fine sense of freshness. Quite dry and tobacco with good oak in support. Savoury earthy finish. Very nice wine. Dry finish. 93 points
The Coldstream and Ducru both looking really good and entirely typical of fine Cabernet. The Moss Wood on a hiding to nothing looking baked and over-ripe and quite lifeless in comparison. I can recall a comment from Huon Hooke (not on this day) saying it would not look out of place next to a Pichon L…it certainly looked odd next to a Ducru B anyway. On the day it had it’s admirers with Ben Edwards stating he had a bottle the other day and it needed a good decant and showed well as a result. I, however, am not so sure any amount of oxygen will breathe life into it…. There was also some discussion about the high quality of oak used in the Ducru versus the gluey blu-tack oak in the Moss Wood.
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2000 Coldstream Hills Reserve
Old, bit mulchy and bark, mint. Sweet old tobacco and blackcurrant fruit. Quite savoury and developed. Tailing off a bit. Mint. Really good. Some Bdx similarities. 93 points
2000 Moss Wood
Raisined and tired. Beefy old raisined fruit with grassy flavours. Just very ordinary. Hard tannins. Getting better with air but out of class here. 87 points
2000 Chateau Ducru-Beaucaillou
Licorice, scorched earth, blackcurrant. Very strong tannins on beefy cherry/raspberry fruit. Impeccable balance and outstanding length. Dried herbs on exit. Still very young. 95 points
Halliday noted this as the strongest bracket of the tasting with all wines showing really well. I felt compelled to pipe up and offer the opinion that the Moss Wood was pretty tired and ordinary. Several enthusiastic agreements noted here. I have four bottles in the cellar of the 2000 Moss Wood so hope it was just a poor showing for this wine. To be fair it should really have been a 1999 or 2001 vintage - not 2000 which was not so flash in Margaret River. I have tasted the 2000 Coldstream many times on release and over the years and it still looks very good - although suspect that maybe it was best as a younger wine. The Ducru was simply all class - a great wine.
Revision Feb08 : Opened a 2000 Moss Wood from my cellar and it looked very good. Stored at 15c since release. Excellent wine and although I was not thinking much about it in a scoring context I’d probably say around 93 points.
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1998 Coldstream Hills Reserve
Raisined and a little tired. Better palate but pretty dried out. It’s OK but not great. Come back to this. 88 points
1996 Moss Wood
Earthy, black fruits, dusty oak – bit chocolaty. Very impressive palate. Lots of power and excellent ripe tannins. Shovels through the mouth. Blackcurranty finish. Absolute classic. 96 points.
1996 Chateau Ducru-Beaucaillou
Some capsicum, blackcurrant, pencil, aniseed and mineral. Clean, fresh and tight. Strong tannins, dried herb and lovely blackcurrant fruit with a little spice. Excellent length. Dry tannic finish. Very classic. Very long term. 96 points
Not an auspicious start with comments from winemaker Andrew Fleming that ‘96 was not such a great vintage in Bordeaux. This bracket was not thought to be that strong by the moderators (Halliday and Fleming) and in particular a condemnation of the Ducru for hard tannins. Winsor Dobbin and myself the only (vocal) supporters of this wine. I thought it was absolutely classic long term 1996 Medoc and a magnificent example of a great Cabernet vintage and said as much. Edwards and Stock both raising eyebrows and Edwards commenting something along the lines of - ‘it smells great but then with those tannins it’s “get out of my mouth!” ‘. Perhaps the fumes from sniffing too much Burgundy have made them a bit soft in the head
The 1996 Moss Wood again performed to expectations (possibly above) and looked as good as any Bordeaux. A top wine. The 1998 Coldstream looked like the product of a hot vintage to me and while my notes said “come back” to re-taste…I never did.
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1992 Coldstream Hills Reserve
Sweet red capsicum juice, red fruits, smoke cigar box. All very nice mind you but pushing the envelope. Quite dry with sweet fruit behind. Capsicum tinges. Red fruits. Like a Yeringberg. Really sweet and nice but maybe too capsicumy by half for some. I like it. 93-94 points.
1990 Moss Wood
Lovely peppery beefy sweet old fruit. Generous mid palate. Licorice flavours. Really nice. Flows along. 92 points
1990 Chateau Ducru-Beaucaillou
Brett and mild taint. Not rated.
As with all of these sorts of tastings that utilise multiple older cork sealed bottles there is often variation. It is fair to say that half the room may be tasting one wine, the other half another. Certainly looked the case with the Ducru which was cardboardy, bretty and tainted all at once (although a helpful sommelier told me it was not corked…) No point discussing it further. The 1990 Moss Wood was lovely and I may have under-rated it. The 1992 Coldstream also a really nice wine but you have to like the style. It still looked young and vigorous and I would be happy to knock one off any day of the week.
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All in all a great, informative and well run tasting. Many thanks to Coldstream Hills for flying me down and paying for transfers to and from the airport (mentioned as disclaimer).
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February 18th, 2008 at 3:21 pm| Quote |
I expect you told the sommelier to re-taste after pouring your spittoon over his/her head.
February 18th, 2008 at 4:33 pm| Quote |
GW, Just looked in my cellar and noticed I have a dozen of the 2000 Coldstream Reserves that I haven’t tried yet (about to arrest that). Any legs left in it based on your tasting?
February 18th, 2008 at 4:39 pm| Quote |
“‘96 was not such a great vintage in Bordeaux.” ???? You are right, the ‘96 Ducru-Beaucaillou is a fantastic wine - as is almost any Saint-Julien from ‘96. For example, I had a humble but very, very good ‘96 Moulin Riche (2nd wine Leoville Poyferre) barely two weeks ago that still had yet to hit its straps. As for ‘96 Ducru-Beaucaillou - certainly 95-96 points.
February 18th, 2008 at 4:39 pm| Quote |
I had a 2004 Wantirna estate Amelia on saturday- excellent wine! So supple and enjoyable but with good structure underneath.
Wonder what is happening to to Moss Wood the Margaret river icon. Bit wobbly. I did not buy the ‘04 (nor ‘03 and ‘02). Will see if it makes a good wine in ‘07 ..that will be the test.
sanjay
February 18th, 2008 at 4:46 pm| Quote |
Trav,
I finished the last of my 2000 Reserve cabs a year or so ago. They were lovely in their youth, but the last few bottles seemed to have fallen in a bit of a heap. Still lots of plump fruit, but the tannins had all but disappeared. Had the mouthfeel of a soft pinot. A bit weird in all honesty.
Not sure if you like your wines on the younger or older side of the development phase, but if I was you I’d be trying one as a matter of priority.
February 18th, 2008 at 6:07 pm| Quote |
Thanks Brent,
hmmmm, that does sound weird and I’ll be more than a little disappointed if my experience is the same as yours. Having said that, it might go better with my barramundi tonight than I originally thought!
February 18th, 2008 at 6:16 pm| Quote |
Jules,
No I didn’t the place was crawling with the buggers and they might have ganged up on me..
Trav,
No. The 2000 Coldstream has plenty left in the tank - it’s just a much softer wine now. I’d be tasting one to see how you find it. I have an unopened six pack myself and I am not in a hurry.
MichaelC,
Again you are wise. A man of pure taste with regards to Champagne and Cabernet.
Sanjay,
Yes. I have not bought Moss Wood since 2001 being largely uninspired by 2002,2003 and 2004. Bought plenty of 1999 and 2001 and have 1996 in the cellar. Lets see what 2005 turns out first..before 2007. I really wanted to try that 04 Wantirna..forgot to buy one.
GW
February 19th, 2008 at 8:41 am| Quote |
My 2000 Moss Wood experience (thankfully) did not match yours back in December ‘07.
The wine was full of life, with a 45+ second finish, and amazing aromatics.
February 19th, 2008 at 9:13 am| Quote |
I’ll grab one from the cellar soon and have a look. I’ll be sure or the provenance of that one.
GW
February 19th, 2008 at 6:28 pm| Quote |
After reading this I had to get a 2000 CH Reserve from the cellar, just popped the cork now and it seems a lot less developed than the examples you and CM reported on at this tasting (and Brent above). It’s youthful, fresh and firm, just a hint of the mulch you mention. Based on this bottle I’ll try it again in 2-3 years.
February 19th, 2008 at 7:35 pm| Quote |
I have a couple of bottles of 2000 CH reserve left. Based on my last tasting I was planning to leave them for up to 6 years.
96 Bordeaux…patiently waiting for my bottles to enter the drinking window. ‘96 Pichon Lalande tasted last year was fabulous. Haut Bailly is so supple. Wouldn’t bother with LLC or Cos for another 5-6 years.
February 19th, 2008 at 8:18 pm| Quote |
RB,
Yes..well you get what you get on the day. Good cellaring counts for a lot although with cork it’s a lottery. I’d expect the Coldstream examples to have good provenance mind you…anyway re-reading that note the score maybe says more than the note for once. Really like it. CM, I note, also found the 2000 Ducru significantly more bretty than the one in front of me (although it’s certainly there)so tolerance, my unbridled enthusiasm for Bordeaux or a different bottle could be at play (2 used for this tasting). Maybe all three! Anyway I bought some 96 Ducru B this afternoon and showed masterful restraint passing on LLC and Leo B… Happy days. I’d really like to find some 05 CH reserve too.
GW
February 20th, 2008 at 10:28 am| Quote |
I am confident that James now has you on his list of people to NEVER invite back. Call it a hunch.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:34 am| Quote |
Ha ha.
GW
March 2nd, 2008 at 10:39 am| Quote |
OK. I opened a 2000 Moss Wood from my cellar and it looked very good. Stored at 15c since release. Excellent wine and although I was not thinking much about it in a scoring context I’d probably say around 93 points. Also opened a 04 Chateau Grand Pontet that was most enjoyable - although the sweet fruit of the 00 Moss Wood had more appeal on the night.
GW
March 9th, 2008 at 7:31 am| Quote |
Glad to hear your 2nd bottle of 2000 Moss Wood paid off.